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Question:

 

Ron,

Here is my story.  I married a widower August 30, 2003.  I am 47, he is 49.  We both work full time good jobs.  I knew him from work 7 years before this.  He was a wonderful husband and father.  As a co-worker, he had a strong work ethic and a fun guy.  I had not seen or talked to him in about 5 years.   Through mutual friends, I learned of his wife’s death.  God seemed to placed him on my heart.  I called to give my regrets and see how he was doing.  It broke my heart but I prayed and went about my own life.  God continued to place him on my heart.  Long story short, I flew down to “cheer” up and old friend and a new friendship quickly developed.  Because we felt God had put us together, felt sure of the relationship and with the distance, we married 8 months from our first real date. 

I have no children, but love kids.  I have 8 nieces and 4 nephews.  I grew up very close to my family.  I was very respectful of my parents and their life and their choices.  My husband’s children were Son 18, Daughter 22, and Daughter 24 at the time we started dating.  Both daughters were living on their own.  The son was a senior in high school and planning to go to college that fall.  My husband tried to keep the kids in the loop while we were dating and things were pretty civil till we married.

His oldest daughter cried loudly through the entire wedding ceremony.  Within a few months of marriage, at a family lunch the oldest asked how my husband’s will was made out.  From there, things have continued to go downhill at a rapid pace.  The kids felt that their mom’s life insurance should have gone to them.  It is almost 2 years later and the kids still are angry that their dad moved on, that they didn’t get to chose how the money was spent, that our will is that if I die, he gets everything, if he dies I get all but a life insurance policy left for the kids.

I believe some of their hurt lies in that DH was able to marry and love again.  They were very critical of him doing “new things” and changing the house even before I came along.  I guess they wanted him to grieve longer.  We started dating 6 months after their mom passed away.  I believe there is some feeling that if they are “OK” with everything then they are being disloyal to their mom.  Anyway, at this point none of the kids live with us.  The middle daughter goes to church with us almost every Sunday and she and I are growing into good friends.  The other 2 are very angry and stuck.  It is miserable to be around them.  They are unkind to their father, only call to ask for money.  Didn’t even send him a Christmas card.  We sent gifts to their grandparents house for them to open on Christmas but not even a thanks was given. 

So, my question to you, where do we start in trying to mend and blend or is it possible until their hearts are in the right spot?  Which of your books would you recommend or is there another author who deals with issues relating to a parent dieing and the other spouse remarrying?  Everything I have read, speaks that adult children are harder to bond with because their need for a parent figure is lessened.  I am sure there are additional things my husband and I can do.  My latest version to hold on to is Gal. 6:9.  Thanks for any advice and direction you can give. 

 

 

Answer:

 

First let me say how much I appreciate your question and your struggle.  I am hearing from more and more "second-half stepfamilies" and they are all asking the same questions you are. 

 

You should know that the adjustment issues children in stepfamilies face are generally the same whether they are minors still living at home or adults.  Of course, specific circumstances vary, but in general many things are the same.  For example, it sounds as if your adult stepchildren feel:

  • Fearful -- of being abandoned or isolated from their only remaining parent.  Unfortunately, they have already tasted grief in a very real way; when their father remarried, the grief intensified because in a very real sense they have lost a piece of him now, too (sharing a parent with an "outsider" is very difficult for children of any age).
  • Loyal to their Family -- maintaining a strong family identity is important for adult children.  Accepting a stepparent means the established family ties must stretch to make room for newcomers.  This isn't easy and frankly it hurts.  Please don't take this personally--it's really not about you.  It's about their past.  They might also feel disloyal toward their deceased mother and, therefore, feel guilty about letting you in.  Oh, and by the way, the timing of your marriage to their father probably isn't helping here.  Dad dating after only 6 months doesn't feel honoring of mom.  Unfortunately, I'm afraid this has you even more behind the eight-ball with them. 
  • Jealous or Replaced -- many adult children, who have been the "apple of their parent's eye" feel replaced by a stepparent.  Let's face it, you are taking their father's attention, time, and energy.  His marriage is in effect another loss for his children -- making you, of course, the easy target for their pain. 
  • Concerned about Finances -- the money issues they are asking are not uncommon and must be addressed.  They have a right to know how their family identity (i.e., one value of their inheritance) is going to be provided for.  Your husband should become very proactive in addressing these matters with his children so their fears can be put to rest.  See our series on money in stepfamilies.
  • Concerned about Grandchildren -- I find that adult stepchildren are quite jealous that their children, i.e., the biological grandchildren, are now not positioned to receive as much time and energy from their parent as they were before the marriage.  Adult children obviously can't have their children knowing the deceased parent, so they invest heavily in the idea of having their children spend time with a grandparent.  Your husband's increased unavailability is--well, another loss for his adult children. 

In the end, while the specifics of their complaints are different than younger stepfamily children (e.g., inheritance), their feelings and concerns are very similar.  You are likely feeling targeted by their anger and unaccepted.  Please know that developing a family identity and building a relationship with children who aren't really asking for your involvement takes a very long time for all stepfamilies and you, too, will need to learn patience.  Read: How To Cook a Stepfamily

 

I want to suggest that you get a copy of my book The Smart Stepfamily and begin reading quickly.  It will help you understand the big picture of stepfamilies and give specific strategies to help with integration.  Keep in mind that illustrations addressing younger children also apply in principle to your second-half stepfamily.  One specific strategy to consider is building a relationship with your adult stepchildren through your role as a stepgrandmother.  You will bond with stepgrandchildren much more quickly and their parents (your stepchildren) may grow to appreciate what you do for their kids long before they accept you being married to their father. 

 

Another resource is Terri Smith's book When Your Parent Remarries Late in Life: Making Peace with Your Adult Stepfamily.  Although the title implies that the book is only for the adult children, you will gain a tremendous perspective as well on what they are going through and how you should respond.  Read this book as well. 

 

Finally, please find an outside group of women, stepmothers, or a close friend with whom you can talk (and express your complaints!).  You need an outlet and your husband, given his emotional ties to his children, is not a likely candidate for your "outsider" point of view.  With God's help, you can grow your extended family relationships, but patience is a must. 

 

Hold God's hand and keep stepping!

Ron L. Deal

 

 

 
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#1: by Sabrina on 05.12.2008 @ 09:17am CDT

I found this recent entry, and I'm somewhat on the flip side. My mom passed away April 2007. My stepfather has been moving forward as I have. He seems to have dealt with the first year really well. Recently I visited him and my younger 17 yr. old brother and saw him give a call to a lady I was somewhat familiar with. I've told him before that whenever he gets to the point where he wants to start dating I'm "ok" with it. Still it was rather odd and honestly uncomfortable for me when she came over for a gathering and was what I thought a little too comfortable. My mom knew this lady and had mentioned before that she always thought she had her eye on my stepfather. So, I think this is another factor for me. I want him to be happy, but it bothers me when it is with someone who already knew my mom and who my mom didn't favor too much. The are managers at different stores for the same company so they have a lot to talk about. I kind of confronted him about her and he reassured me that he doesn't see himself getting involved because she has already be divorced twice. But, I'm not sure what her intentions are. I know he's told me he doesn't intend on marrying again. I feel very confused right now because I'm not sure how to be open about my feeling without being rude or making him feel like he can't breathe. I have expressed to him that she's a "weird" lady and he agrees in jokes, but I can also tell he gets uneasy when we begin to discuss any dating of any kind. Any advice you have would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,,
Sabrina
#2: by Elaine on 06.08.2008 @ 03:09pm CDT

Sabrina,
While you may be a stakeholder in any relationships that develop for yur stepdad, please step back and see that yu do not have ownership over his future relationships. Manage your own life well and let yur stepday manage his. You share memories of a mutually loved person. enjoy that.
#3: by lee on 07.09.2008 @ 01:55am CDT

I was so glad to read the above "answer" in the article, because it so clearly echoes what I feel as an adult step-child. I am an only child, & my mom died when I was 31. I'm single, with no children of my own. My dad & I were very close, as my mom had a prolonged illness. We vacationed & took many trips together. 6 months after mom died, he was dating, and 11 months after her death, re-married. He moved to his bride's area of the country and into her house. 3 months after my mom died, I was called to remove all of my mom's things from our previous home prior to the wedding, & take what I wanted b/c the rest was going to be sold. I too, cried throughout the wedding ceremony. Not out of disrespect, but because I was watching my dad kiss someone new while my mom lay in her freshly dug grave. It seemed all too fast to me, & appeared disrespectful of my mom. Everyone was partying & having a great time while I was still grieving.

At 31, I went from only child to having a step-brother, 2 step-nieces, a step-sister, & step-brother-in-law. Our family home was gone - everything cleared out & sold. All of mom's things were gone. I live in another state, while my new step-sister & her husband live only a few miles away from my dad's new wife. Now, dad takes extravagant trips across country with his new wife & I'm not invited as "family" anymore. True, I'm an adult & they are free to take trips without a third wheel. I just miss the companionship & exciting trips Dad & I used to take as a family. When mom was alive, we did things like vacations as a family. No more.

I am happy that my dad has someone to keep him from being lonely, & to take care of him. But in the new family situation, he too has been taken from me. Phone conversations are usually about what he, my step-mom, & her kids are up to (since they live nearby & do many things together). My step-mother's grandchildren call my dad "grandpa", which hurts as I'm not able to have any children of my own.

I am now the outsider in what used to be my own family. I think if I was married & had my own children, it might not hurt as bad. But as a single person, I feel incredibly alone. When I visit, everything is about "them" - my stepmom & her adult kids'family traditions, what their plans are for the holidays, etc. There is no planning that includes my thoughts or input, or collaboration. If I voice any objections, I am labeled as "problematic" or "uncooperative". In general, I feel disrespected and incredibly alone.

I would love for my stepmom to take an interest in my life at some point - to call, etc. I have voiced this before but it never happens. I can't make this family accept me. My "coping" mechanism now is to stay away - probably not the best but I haven't been able to come up with another solution. I hear so much about the problems adults have with their step-children, but very little about what it's like to be thrown into the middle of a new family when everything is beyond your control. I just wanted to share my experience from the side of an adult child with a new step-family. Sorry so long
- Lee
#4: by Nancy on 11.25.2008 @ 06:19pm CST

I am so glad to have read your comment Lee. I feel exactly the same way - like an outsider in my own family - what's left of it.

I'm 33 and my mom died 14 years ago, very suddenly. My first clear thought that I remember after was that I hoped my dad would remarry. My dad's first date was on the first anniversary of her death....I was not at all prepared for the emotional upheaval that came with it. He's now been married for 7 years. My stepmother has 2 grown daughters, each with their own children. They don't live in another part of the country - 15 minutes away - but they might as well. They spend a lot of time with her daughter and children - even took a vacation together recently - and I hardly talk to them. Every conversation revolves around HER children and grandchildren and how wonderful they are. A while ago, my dad very proudly told me that my stepsister was quitting smoking and asked if I was going to. I had quit about 6 months before.

Ever since my stepmom moved in, I felt like an unexpected, not completely welcome visitor....my dad actually told me I should call first before just dropping in.....while my stepsister was allowed to answer their phone! (He's since told me that's ridiculous, of course I don't need to call first). Now, when we visit their house, my stepniece and nephew are free to walk around the house and go to "their" bedroom upstairs, but when my children start up the stairs, they're told to come down. When my children were still in diapers, my stepmom told me she only had sleepovers when kids were out of diapers...apparently that rule too only applied to my kids, because it wasn't an issue when the oldest granddaughter was in diapers and it's not a problem now that the youngest is in diapers. They seem to have at least 1, sometimes all 3 of my stepsisters kids for the weekend every other weekend, but on the odd occasion I've asked them to babysit my kids for an evening, I've literally been asked to be back by 9:00pm!!!

They have a pool and bought 3 sets of masks and fins.....my 2 children make 5 grandchildren.

Lee - it's comforting to know I'm not the only one who feels abandoned and alone (although I am sorry we have this in common) but believe me, having children doesn't make it any less painful...It is incredibly difficult to see what a fantastic Papa my dad is - to someone else's kids.

I also cope by staying away. But that doesn't help...every day, I feel like I lose a little more of the only parent I have left.

Christmas is coming and it's "my" family's turn this year (we alternate with my husband's family every year) but I dread spending the holidays there. There are no familiar traditions. We do whatever they do. Before this marriage, my dad and I spent every Christmas with my dad's family, my cousins who I've always been very close to. Now I spend it with virtual strangers. I feel like my dad has shed every thing that tied him to his old life with my mom and I'm the one last thread holding him back.

Last year, I asked him what the oldest "step-grandson" wanted for Christmas. I was devastated when he was able to tell me all of the kids interests....sometimes I honestly wonder if he even remembers my kids names! He doesn't have a clue what kinds of things my girls like to do and rarely thinks to ask about them. My girls have had dance classes every Saturday for the past 2 months and the other day he asked if they still dance. At my daughter's dance recital last year, they came to see it, but they only stayed long enough to see her dance and left....with my stepniece, who they brought because she was staying with them for the weekend (the one in diapers).

Don't get me wrong, I know my dad loves me and he would do anything for me if I asked, but I don't feel I should have to ask for his time - I never had to before. I'm so tired of compromising just to have any piece of him.

I also feel ashamed that I feel this way. He's allowed to be happy and I wouldn't want him to be unhappy but....

My stepsisters don't seem to have an issue (so I too come across as being "problematic") but they were also raised very differently than I was - my stepmom was a teenage mother and from what I gather, they didn't have a steady father figure in their lives. My parents were together until she died. They didn't have a good marriage, but still - death parted them. Besides - my stepsisters haven't lost anything, their mother is just as involved as she always was and their kids enjoy a loving, doting grandfather.

Thanks for sharing your story Lee. Reading it and sharing my own story was very therapeutic.
#5: by liz on 12.03.2008 @ 09:20am CST

I guess I need help on the other side. what can I - as the new 'stepmother' do to help my daughter and his daughter get along. They are in their mid-twenties - neither live with us - although mine lives 200 miles away and his 5 miles. These two young ladies could NOT be more different and I feel that this has caused a certain amount of jealousy on his daughters part. Next problem is that this jealousy has extended to my new husband who finds my daughter's 'A' personality and success hard to take when compared to his daughters reserve nature and modest achievement.
I can't make my daughter less than what she is or his more. I try to alway compliment and ' celebrate' with his daughter, but it is difficult now to celebrate mine because it causes resentment.
#6: by Rebecca on 12.04.2008 @ 08:10pm CST

Liz..You seem to be the one that reaches out and cares much for others feelings. If everyone could just accept and understand that new step families just don't automatically have past shared memories and bonding but need to be compassionate, loving to all equally while trying to establish a caring, loving circle, all could accept and heal much quicker to understand all dynamics that are playing out in this new life. You are right to compliment and celebrate your stepdaughters accomplishments and you should do the same for your daughter. That is what mentally healthy families do. Please, don't start hiding your right to celebrate your daughter's life to pacify your husband or stepdaughter. If you do, you might have much resentment through the years and then you will have to work on that. It will have to be dealt with.

Have you talked with your husband and shared what you have share here? If not, I think you should. Then, the two of you can acknowledge the feelings and begin dealing with the situation and grow together as a couple with lasting love and that love will cross over for a stronger family. You two must be on the same page of sharing and understanding all feelings concerned. Years move on quickly so please do not avoid this situation and try to decipher for yourself or play putting your feelings on the back burner in hoping things will just work out by themselves.

In time, a family meeting might be helpful, only if you and your husband are on the same page and want to be fair not only to one another, but to each wonderful daughter. Yes, that might seem difficult now..it might be difficult during discussion, but it will open a new door for understanding and communication..It might take time for all to think about what was said and understand even if done with much concern and love. Yet, it will be a beginning for all in the long run. It takes time for all to digest and live with their own thoughts for a while but it can help all to move forward faster.

No, I am not saying to compare the two daughters in a family discussion..but, then you are wise and already know that.

New families with adult stepchildren can be very hard on all. The new wife, new husband and adult children have roles to learn. Each one, if loving and considerate, can learn to grow together if ALL are willing.

Take care of yourself and family.
#7: by Nancy on 12.09.2008 @ 10:44am CST

Liz - all I can say is be careful that you're not "gloating" or "bragging" about either daughter to the other. Of the 3 of us (myself and 2 step-sisters) I am the "successful" one, but my step-mom has a way of making me feel like a dissappointment whenever she talks about her daughter. I believe she is over-compensating most of the time and isn't trying to be malicious, but it leaves me feeling total resentment towards my step-sister, who really never did anything to me. I often wonder if the conversations are reversed when she's talking to her daughter about me and if she feels as much resentment towards me. Because I resent it so much, I have no desire to build any kind of relationship with them.

I don't think you can force 2 people to get along....just because you found love and they're now "family"!

I don't know what else to tell you, but I hope it all works out for you.

Good luck!
#8: by Tara on 12.22.2008 @ 02:02am CST

Let me start by saying I don't want my step daughter around. I didn't know my husband had a daughter until after we were marry six months or so. He was a teenage father. The mother never told him she was pregnant. He didn't find out that he even had a daughter until she was grown and married. She is now 37 divorced and has 4 children. She shows up with the kids and tells them about their granddad and has never introduced me to the kids as grandma. I don't think I've ever heard her or the kids call me anything. Although she doesn't show up until hoildays or when she needs some money. And when she comes around she only directs her attention toward my husband. His parents are always talking about her in-frequent visits. How she never calls or goes by. Althought they play there part in keeping the pot stirred (that's a subject for later). It's another Christmas season and the daughter has left a message that she would see my husband at grandmas house. I love my husband, I've tried to be open and receptive because of the guilt he feels in the relationship. We've been married 9 years and I'm starting to feel like the outsider. In their family circle. I read the advice in your article and I'd like to resolve this situation before it disolves our marriage. My husband and I are both divorcees. I have 3 adult children from a previous marriage. They have a good realtionship with my husband. All I want to know in this juncture of life is what do I need to do. I can't go on like this.
#9: by dawn on 02.02.2009 @ 11:23am CST

I really appreciate the open sharing this discussion has generated. It's allowed me to see into the hearts (at least partially!) of a few adult step children which certainly increases my compassion towards my husband's adult kids.

My husband's first wife died nine years ago (shortly after they divorced because of her alchoholism) - which was around the time of my divorce. We started out seeing each other as friends (about a year and after his wife died) then it evolved into dating. We dated three years, and have now been married almost four years.

All of his children were adults (20s to 30s) when we met. Over time his children have allowed me into their lives, each one at his/her own pace, and each one to varying degrees. I care deeply about each one of them and try to be considerate of their losses and feelings. I absolutely adore the three step grandchildren they have given to me. I feel there is generally peace with everyone, but I'm a bit confused about one of his daughters and some boundary issues. Perhaps someone can help me understand better, and/or share some ideas about how to deal with the issue.

This adult daughter (late 20s) calls her father several times a day. She calls after we're in bed, and sometimes early again the next morning. Her calls are usually not real long, about something she saw at a garage sale, or something she read online, etc. I'm not apposed to the calls in general, it's just the frequency is sometimes hard for me to understand (she doesn't seem to have any friends) and she leans very heavily on her dad. She'll call while we're eating (at home or at a restaurant), sleeping, etc. and my husband doesn't feel confortable to tell her when she's caught us at an inconvenient time. I want them to have a happy relationship, and I really enjoy her when she's around - it just feels like a boundary issue, but I'm unsure.

I know it's his place to deal with this (or not deal with it!:) ) not mine, I'm just wondering if this is normal or a bit enmeshed/obsessive?

I'd love to hear from you all. :)
#10: by shirley on 03.14.2009 @ 11:12am CDT

I have three children, 2 girls and a boy. The eldest of these is my stepson to my husbands first marriage, who came along at the age of 6 when his mother decided she no longer could look after him and we have not seen or heard from her since. I love him as I would my own child.I have never called his mother and have always said that I would understand and support him if he ever wanted to trace her. The problem started when he left home at 18 straight into the arms of a woman of 25 with two young children. It wasn't a gradual process either. He first introduced her as being younger than she was and then phoned me the next day to tell me that she was older and had two children to an ex partner. If I'm honest, I didn't feel comfortable with the situation, especially when he immediately moved in and she started wedding planning. After a couple of weeks they brought her two girls to visit (aged 3 and 5). My daughters were then age 13 and 7. We all took an immediate dislike to the older girl and her spiteful behaviour, but this was made worse by her mother not correcting it.

My younger daughter used to look forward to them coming as she always enjoyed other childrens company, however, it always ended up in tears and my now daughter-inlaw, laying blame on my daughter, even though she wouldn't say it, I just felt it, yet ignored it to save the peace.

I felt as if I had a fully readymade family thrust upon me. I felt too young to be called grandma when I was still in the process of being a mum. I also resent the fact that we have not been allowed to see our son without his wife in tow.

I know that there is resentment on her side and that she feels that I have not accepted her children, but it was the way they were thrust upon me overnight while still bringing up my family and the unspoken words of accept us all or lose your son.

Although we see and visit each other, though never without her presence, I do resent her and still cannot like, never mind love her older child although I try not to show it. My younger daughter missed the closeness she had with her brother and resents them all for taking him away.

I know that she bad-mouths me and my two daughters to my son and her girls as I have heard them say things which I know could only come from her.

Although, I feel that we are both aware of each others feelings, I always respond to her by saying the right things, so as not to give her the amnunition she wants.
#11: by Connie McGrath on 03.15.2009 @ 09:20pm CDT

I would like to know what gives nearly forty year old adult step-daughters the right to be rude, mean, and disrespectful to their dad's new wife. Everything I read comments on the pain they feel because their mother is replaced. At what point in life does one have to realize that death happens and the living parent has a right to get on with his life. What is your opinion of a mother who makes the daughters PROMISE that their dad will never be with another woman, ever! Too bad I learned that after the wedding. The anger and resentment towards me was unbearable. Unfortunately the guilt trip put on their dad won out and we split on our second wedding anniversary. They maintain they had nothing to do with the split. They were the only stress in our lives.
#12: by Ruth Elli on 04.13.2009 @ 07:52pm CDT

My husband and I have been married for nearly 4 years now. We have had on-going problems from the time we started seeing each other. His first wife passed away & almost immediately after her death we started seeing each other & were married 10 months after her death. He has two adult daughters that gave us terrible troubles. They did everything to the point of even stealing from their father to break us up. They are now ages 32 & 34. We have walked on egg shells & had many battles with them over "issues" over the past years... Things have gotten much better & we were beginning to believe we could relax a bit now... We go to all of their children's activities & are very involved in their lives... I can "sense" things & from time to time they make "comments or set us up"... But we can usually over-look them & get past them fairly quickly...

Something happened though, that is causing a "huge" problem between my husband and I now. The girls gave him a "special" framed list of reasons why they love him... Two pages long.. In it they mention 5 different times that he loved their mother & showed her affection in front of them & others..
Needless to say, I do NOT want that hanging in my home. We decided "before" we got married that we would not bring our past into our marriage and definately would have NO mention of either of our spouses or pictures of them in our home. We have told the children this & they know the boundaries we have set. This "framed list" is very offensive to me. I don't want to remember my husband having his arms around his former wife... I want him to think of me. These girls want us to hang this in our home. I think he should give it back to them lovingly and tell them that they need to change those 5 things to something more "specific" about him personally instead of mentioning their mother, since this has been a "huge" issue between all of us. My husband believes we should hang it in our home out of respect for their past.... This to me, is being disloyal to his love for me... I feel as if he would be emotionally attached to his past there-by being unfaithful to the vows he took on "our" wedding day. The wedding vows say "til death us do part"...His first wife is deceased and I am the one he has taken the vows with now...I believe he and the girls are trying to make this a marriage of "3" instead of two. Me, his first wife & him. This is our home. We even bought a different home so that everything would be "ours" and not anything from either of our pasts other than pictures of our children and grandchildren, our parents & the like.
I need help!
#13: by Ruth Elli on 04.14.2009 @ 08:12am CDT

Last night was the first time I've ever written here. I am wondering if anyone ever reads these? I hope so. I am exhausted from the step-children and the battle they have stirred up. I truly don't believe they are doing this to cause problems between their father and I--I think they gave him the framed list print I spoke of in my last message to show him love & tell him the memories they have of him & how proud they are of him...I also believe they are afraid he will forget or "has" forgotten how much he loved their mother..They sneak comments in when they can & even loan us movies with definite over-tones of men who have lost their wives & don't remarry because they can't ever love anyone that much and can't get "over" the great love they had for them.... I understand that those things are very important to children... Saying all of that, I guess it is important for you to know that these girls slandered us & actually made up lies about us. We are Christians who live our lives faithfully for the Lord & they spread the rumor purposefully to break us up, all over the church and my husband's former neighborhood that we had an emotional affair-- All of this was totally untrue & very hurtful. Even The pastor even tried to tell them they were wrong, but they wouldn't listen to him... We would walk in the church & they if they saw us, they would turn and walk the other way. They even denied my husband the right to see his grandchildren. They would not have "anything" to do with us other than to try to stop our marriage- Which they fought very hard to do--We went to the pastor & he told us that they would agree with him on something & the minute they left his office, they would do completely opposite of what they had promised him. It got so bad, that we could not continue in our church-- Not because of the rumors they had started... We could easily get past that, because the people who loved & knew us didn't believe them & even tried to talk with them to no avail--But because it got so bad that as we walked down the hallway one Sunday, my husbands grandson saw him(2 years old) and reached out his hand saying; "Grandpa, Grandpa!" and his mother grabbed his hand and pulled him away from my husband with her nose in the air. She would hold her baby showing him off & if he or I came near her, she would turn her back to us..This broke my husband's heart....They came to our wedding because the pastor convinced them they needed to...(on the RSVP the wrote; "we are coming, but only out of love for our father").. At our wedding, the youngest cried throughout the ceremony... The oldest when we were letting each row go out (we had a large wedding of 200 guests).. She hugged her father, then barely looked at me, said my name & put her nose in the air, turning her back to me...They did not come to our reception. The oldest daughter went so far as to have the people who made their mother's grave-marker make "changes" on it against my husbands wishes, because "she didn't like the way he was having it made"... This of course, was illegal, but somehow, she convinced the company to do it, and my husband gave in to her, in spite of the fact that the pastor told him not to...Both girls would come over to his house and go through the garbage to see if he was throwing something out that they wanted.. they went so far as to keep "thanksgiving paper napkins"... They came into his home and took "everything" they wanted, telling him he had no right to anything, because everything became "theirs" when their mother died...It got so bad, he finally had to change the locks on the house! I never in a million years thought that I would see as many hateful things as I did out of those "Christian" girls during that time... We were totally cut out of their lives that first year... Oh, and we tried counseling with them before we were married..(which only lasted about 4 sessions due to their refusing to listen to the counselor)...The oldest told me that I would "Never" be accepted into their family right in front of the pastor. We did counsel with him for months, but mostly him with us & them with him... We could never really get to the point of us all being in counseling together, because they would not listen to either the counselor or the pastor.. ..I could go on and on... We had terrible turmoil due to them wanting to "keep" their mother as a part of our marriage... They actually thought their father should still be going to the grave sight often and placing flowers on it, and would tell us how the grave next to their mother's would have empty milk cartons on it, etc. because that wife had loved chocolate milk, etc. They told my husband that he should be ashamed of himself for not doing those things, because their mother was the "Love of his life" (AFTER we were married)... and they said that my husband should still be grieving... He grieved throughout the illness his former wife had... Which I learned is quite common with men. I didn't believe it at first, but because I saw it through his actions, having known him for several years prior to his first wife's death, and speaking with a pastor who actually went through the same experience with his first wife, and having it confirmed by other pastors & counselors,I know it to be true...

So, there have been on-going problems with what my step-daughters want and expect --- sometimes almost demand... We have had to set definite boundaries in order to keep them from having control over our lives... One of them would quote scripture to us to try to get us to "confess to our sins" she twisted the scriptures to her advantage until the pastor had finally heard enough & told that those passages had "nothing" to do with what she was trying to make them say & he explained to her in front of us what they were "really" saying... she also quoted parts from a poem to us even after we were married: "I love you in life, I love you in death", even though the wedding vows a person takes are "'til death do us part"... They just can't seem to understand that...They want their father's happiness, but only in the ways that make them feel comfortable... They have pictures of their parents together & their mother all over their house-- even in the bathroom... I mean "everywhere".. It's their home, I don't say anything..They have "none" of my husband and I. My husband finally said something to them about it, but they just ignored him.I care, but I don't think what I care about makes much difference to them.. If I were to step out of his life, I believe they would be quite happy about it.... So, in the size of a mustard seed, that is only dome of the things that have happened. Believe it, things have improved "greatly", but because boundaries have been set in place... Now that things have gone well for a little while, they are beginning to "take liberties" again... I don't think they should have to be reminded of those things over and over again.. It's as if they are always "testing the limits", similar to what a toddler does.

Now they have given my husband this framed list with several comments referring to how much he loved their mother & would show "open affection to her in public and in front of them"...I am a person who "sees" in my mind very vividly "everything" that is said... and especially when it is about something I have Literally seen with my eyes... So, when I see those words, I visualize them literally...I don't want to remember how much my husband loved her... I want to know that he loves me "at least" that much in the now... I deserve that, ever wife does... To be the "Love of their husband's life"...

I don't want to hurt the girls feelings, but I also don't believe they were right in expressing those things in written form and framing them for my husband to hang in our home...especially when they "know" those things are outside of the boundaries we have set...They actually presented it to him in front of their extended family members & it got passed around the room for everyone to read... Each person acted awkward... my oldest step-daughter's husband took a very long time reading it.. He looked at my husband and asked him if he had read the whole thing.. I could tell he had not read it before & I have no doubt that he knew what my feelings in particular would be (he's a detective, by the way)...My husband told him he hadn't read it through yet... In fact, the only parts of it he had read were things he had done for the girls growing up... He hadn't seen "any" of those comments....

Now my husband tells me that he is not ashamed of what he had in his past...and is proud of it and won't apologize for it... I never asked him to. I think that's strange of him to say... Of course, I would not want him to have been in a marriage that was not loving and that he could not be proud of... But I don't need to hear him say that! ... He told me I should have told the girls that it was a wonderful, thoughtful gift... But the very first, and "only" things my eyes landed on the day he received it were two of the things referring to his first wife & how much he had loved her.... I was stunned & embarrassed..I felt like bursting into tears & it was all I could do to hold them back.... and quite truthfully, everyone else in the room after reading it, acted quite stunned themselves...I think they would agree that it was very sweet & loving, but that those parts were "inappropriate" if we asked them...

I myself,told my husband it was a beautiful thoughtful gift, but those things were "inappropriate"... I told him it's like when we go to a movie, thinking it will be a great one..and we don't believe there will be anything in it to offend us.... While watching it, we're enjoying it & all of a sudden something offensive is thrown in unexpectedly... That ruins the beauty of the movie and the enjoyment of it.... This gift the girls gave him too, is a lovely gift, but it has had things put in it that now ruins it's beauty to me... even though it is for him...and they are "truth".. Just because they are truthful, doesn't make them "appropriate".

The sad thing is, everything that effects one of us, also effects the other... We're married, we're partners... He is being very defensive over the girl's good intentions & is hurt that I do not want him to keep it as it is...He's afraid of "hurting their feelings" ... he thinks we should hang it up in our home... If it didn't make reference to things regarding their mother, and they had "only" made reference to him, I would have no problem with that... But I get very upset when I know that there are things in it that refer to his first wife .... and especially how much he loved her and the things he did "with" her... Truthfully, I don't want this in our home at all... I simply cannot tell you how much this would hurt me. If he insists on it, I will become very bitter toward him... I'm afraid if I don't allow him that privilege, he will become bitter toward me...

I truthfully believe the girls knew "exactly" what they were doing when they gave it to him... They thought that Dad could never refuse such a wonderful gift, especially when they gave it to him in front of family... so they could get away with putting those things about his love for their mother in it... and I would have "no choice" but to have it hung in our home... I don't know what to do... My husband is hurt, because he says I am "insecure .. he says If I wasn't it wouldn't bother me in the least" and I would be proud to have my husband hang it in our home... I say that reference in writing..especially on our walls.. to his former wife and how much he loved her... is "totally out of line" now that he is remarried & is supposed to have given his "whole" heart to me... He thinks I am wrong and makes snide comments that "he will keep it in his trunk & it will never be in our home, because "I" have made that decision & what he believes doesn't count"... To me this is the most serious thing that has happened thus far, because the girls have now put us in a position that is nearly forcing him to make a choice between his love for me and his love for them... That isn't right of them to do... If they had had any sense of respect or care for my feelings, they wouldn't have said those things... They could have written other things about their father in place of them... I am feeling disrespected not only by them, but now by my husband... and because he "wants" to proudly hang it in our home, I feel as if his "past" with his former wife & daughters is "more important than his love for me & building on what we have "now" in order to "have a future"... instead of dwelling on the past and forcing his first wife upon me ... thus, making it a marriage of three-- my husband, his first wife, and me at the tail--I don't believe that's insecurity... I believe that what I want is right and good, because when you take your marriage vows, you say that you will Keep the other person "only" unto yourself... that they have now become the "most" important thing to you.... That's Biblical... Are the children important? Absolutely... but our marriage and our vows to one another should take precedence over them... I would never bring something like that into our home from my first marriage... I would have the courage to tell my children in love, that it was a "lovely gesture" and that I was truly touched by it & look forward to placing it in our home "after" they remove the "inappropriate" statements they made in it.

Please, is anyone out there reading this???? Am I "totally" wrong? If so, why?... Please pray for me.. I am so hurt by this, I am concerned for our marriage now..... I totally adore my husband... He's the best thing that's ever happened to me & I want to honor him... But this is something I just can't bend on.... I just can't...I welcome any comments... I am truly feeling like I am "beneath" everyone else in this marriage instead of being placed "first"... My husband promised me that our home would be a place of "refuge" and "security" for me when we got married... Thank you for any advice... I covet your prayers.
Ruth
#14: by Ron Deal on 04.14.2009 @ 11:24am CDT

Ruth--

Without question your stepdaughters are childishly playing emotional games. Their lies are wrong and their manipulations unexcuseable.

Having said that, you have to understand something: you creating a jealousy war that no one will win. The first step of growing a stepfamily is accepting one another's past and you are in complete denial that your husband loved his first wife. Even worse, you are asking everyone else to join in your denial. Your insecurity is making you battle for his exclusive love (I think you said "the" love of his life) and his daughters are accepting your "challenge". They won't let you erase the memory of their mother or their blood-family. The more you insist they--and your husband--not talk about her, show pictures, or acknowledge her life, the more they will resist and resent you. As I read your post I wondered why you even acknowledge your stepdaughters since they are evidence of your husband's first marriage and sex life. Would you push them out of the picture, too? Further, I've seen many biological fathers divorce their second wives over less. I fear you are your own worst enemy.

The fact that your husband loved a woman before you is not a threat to you unless you turn it into one. Accept it. Find grace for the past and don't battle it. Deal with your fears and trust in your husband's choice to love you, not in your ability to erase his memory of another woman. Until you stop competing, your stepdaughters will not extend grace to you (even then they may not be mature enough to do so). You must lead with emotional maturity, not insecurity and a fragile heart. It starts with you.
#15: by Ruth Elli on 04.14.2009 @ 02:19pm CDT

There is a lot more to the story than what I could put on paper here. I am "not' asking any of them.. the girls nor their father to "erase" any of the beautiful memories they have nor have I asked them to remove pictures.. I would never expect that. They seem to bother my husband more than myself...I have extended grace that you have no idea about, simply because I can't go into any more detail than I already have. People often tell my husband how amazed they are of what I do.. I baby sit our grandchildren (and we call them "ours")... They call me Grandma... I have earned their love and respect in many ways ... they have openly insulted me to others and I have told them I loved them anyway and hugged them in love... I compliment them... as well as their mother and the what a wonderful mother and person she was to them "often"... This is just something that I don't want in my home because of what it says... I don't mind pictures & memories...Anyway... I guess I really don't even need to express my thoughts any more. My husband has come up with a wonderful plan and I agree with it. We are going to treat them with love and dignity over this... We have been to counseling over many things and we have done amazingly well with all the anger the step daughters have had... most of it was directed toward their father and the anger they had over their mothers death...so as you can see, it was "really" anger that their mother passed away, breaking the family up in so many ways... as well as him falling in love so quickly ..... By the way, I am not in any sort of denial that my husband loved his first wife... You are reading far more into what I have said then what I at least "meant"... We sought "much counsel" from Christian professionals, and even went to two as well as two pastors prior to our marriage and we continue to use one of them when we are feeling overwhelmed with anything going on in our family... all of them said the very same thing... We have trusted them...Anyway, the problem is solved and we are praising the Lord for the answer... We know it is only because of Him that we can resolve issues as they come up...I often "vent" on paper without putting into actions what I have vented... It's a way of "letting go" .... Perhaps that's what I was doing here.... As I said... There's just too much to get into on paper. I'm sorry I even used this site at this point, because there isn't enough time nor space to write it all out.... I have to admit, when I wrote it, I was very frustrated & hurt .... I don't know who you are, but I do thank you for your input and will take what you have said to heart for future situations... We have walked "very slowly" into their lives and we are now with them at least once a week if not more... playing with the grandchildren, having meals together.. going places together... It has taken us that long to get this far... It has been a long journey... Also, I had a very abusive marriage with my former husband of 28 years...He committed adultery the very first week we were married... but would not admit it..I stuck it out for many reasons and have three children myself... all of whom call my husband "Dad", by the way... That is a story in itself... I am a walking, living miracle... I was single for 5 years before I married... I would not even date until my husband now approached me & we went to our pastor immediately for counsel before going down the road to dating and marriage...He gave us his blessing & I continued to counsel throughout the courtship.... I may seem weak to you, but if you knew me even a year ago, you would be amazed at how much I have healed.... and even more so since we first met & fell in love.... I know I have weaknesses.. We all do... but in a lot of ways, I am a very strong person, thanks to the Lord & good counseling.... Each day is a new step in my healing. My husband is a true gem and is my greatest encourager & supporter....Anyway... trust me... Things are "far" better than what they seem when I now go back & read what I wrote previously... Thank you again, for your advice... I appreciate the help you tried to give me more than I can say & will definitely remember these things in the future.
#16: by Ron Deal on 04.14.2009 @ 03:03pm CDT

Yes, Ruth, you are a strong person. You have put up with far more rejection and mistreatment than most--and still you press on. By the grace of God, I know.

I hope you don't feel attacked--I certainly didn't mean to do that. I just didn't want you shooting yourself in the foot. It's not all on your shoulders; your stepdaughters certainly carry a lot of responsibility for their actions. Your plan to "treat them with love and dignity" is exactly right. Doing so will leave you with much integrity, even if they don't let you in.

May God give you strength.
Ron
#17: by Ruth Elli on 04.15.2009 @ 10:40am CDT

Ron, thank you for that-- Because of my past, I am not able to do some things that perhaps others who "are" stronger might be able to do... I am fine with some things, but others are just way "too much" for me to bare ... I am still in the process of healing and probably will be for the rest of my life...My husband has made huge sacrifices for me & I am honored and extremely blessed to have a husband who in spite of my struggles, accepts me for who I am, and exactly "where" I am on this journey/adventure... It is hard for my step-daughters to understand some of these things at times, but as we all grow together, they will hopefully, understand a little more fully... I have been able to make huge sacrifices in many ways as well.. Even so much as to go to their homes & have them insult me verbally and turn their backs on me while lavishing their love on their father... I stood their in silence and tried to stay loving in spite of their false accusations of me and their anger... God has helped me on "many" occasions to "keep my mouth shut and smile in love"... and even to find "kind words" to say to them in the midst of the storm... We have set "certain" boundaries where things are concerned "within" our own home, because my husband and I both need to have "sanctuary" and a place where we are not "bombarded by their anger and hostility".... It is the only place where we have complete rest and peace.... I have even gone to parties after being married for three years, where the host has gone around introducing my husband and telling everyone "how sad it was that his wife died, and what a perfect couple they were and how he must be grieving such a great loss..(even though he is not grieving)" and left me sitting there with no reference to me whatsoever..I have sat there with a smile on my face instead of tears and tried to handle every situation with grace and dignity... along with a humble heart, realizing that these people have not known me, and that I am basically a stranger in their minds. My husband has graciously tried to introduce me and sway the comments of well-meaning, but tactless people... He is a true gem and always defers to me in conversation trying to make me feel valued and honored by him... There is no doubt in my mind that he positively adores me and loves me... and yes, He "Often" tells me that I am the "Love of his life" verbally, in notes, and cards... (I have never prompted him to do so... it is of his own accord)... I am totally secure in his love for me... I know he has fond memories of his past, and that's okay... I have no problem with that... He loved his first wife and I'm happy he did. If he didn't I would never have fallen in love with him... But the amazing thing to me is that he is so practical he has told me; "as hard as it is for "me" to understand, he does not "love" his first wife any longer, and would not wish her back".. I find that extremely hard to accept, and yet he has proven it with his love for me over and over again. I am married to an amazing man... I know that my step-daughters come from good bringing up and believe that in time--perhaps years, perhaps not so long-- they too will see the good in me and our marriage...In the mean time I will continue to make sacrifices where I am strong enough to and able to...continue to look for things I can do to nurture our relationship (mine with them and them with their father and all of us together as a family)... God has helped me in amazing ways & somehow, when I think I "just can't" do something, He gives me courage and strength to do the right and honorable thing... That doesn't mean we will "allow" these girls.. or any of our children for that matter.. to control or manipulate us, though... Yes, we must be the "mature" ones in this situation... but whether you agree with me or not, there "have" to be some boundaries, otherwise, these girls are so "powerful" they would have complete control over us at "all" times... and our marriage would not have stood strong more than a couple of weeks at best... Even the pastors have been amazed at their power... We drove by the church one night at 11:00. Our pastor had to fly out of town for several days of important meetings. As we drove by, we were shocked to see the oldest daugther standing in his office while he was seated in his chair.. She was visibly very angry and standing above him shaking her finger at him.... That is just how powerful and angry this girl can be when she is determined... My husband told her that he is in love with me now, and that he has a very happy marriage when they were in a conversation one time. I was sitting next to him. Her comment to him was: "not always".... So, as you can see, what I wrote before was truly a "tiny" part of the whole picture........ As I have said, I myself, am amazed at how God has given me the strength to keep my mouth shut at times. answer softly, and offer words of affirmation where I can covered in love...For the sake of the girls, and our relationship, yes, we do need to do "some" things to affirm their past and the family unite that "once was"... and to honor them in their memories...

Yes, I did feel a little attacked by you, Ron... It's really hard to explain "everything" when there has been so much.. remarrying was one of the most "wonderful" blessings God has ever given me. For the first time in 32 years, God has shown me what it is to be "really" loved... "Truly" loved with my husband's "whole heart"... I am truly humbled and thankful for that... But it has also been one of the "hardest" things I have had to go through, due to the girls and their constant nagging and trying to sabotage our love... Like I said.. I am still recovering from my past... a life where I was admittedly despised by a mentally ill man who was in a holiness church, on the church board, and even in ministries there...Living a hidden life of fear all those years, and trying to protect my children through that...has been quite a journey to say the least... It was because of a pastor that I was able to leave....I praise God that my children now "rise up and call me blessed"...

On top of all these things I have had major health issues... The worse hyper-thyroid my doctor has ever seen... My adrenals were nearly flat-lined.. I also have had the worse case of Epstien Barr Virus, along with extremely low vitamin D.... These things all effect emotions and my stamina... I have been seeing a homeopath for 2 years, spent thousands of dollars to get well (she works with my regular doctor and they are in full agreement on my treatment, Praise God!)...and have kept most of this from the step-daughters, due to their lack of compassion for me... Thankfully, every time I've had to be with them & their families, God has given me the strength to do what I have needed to do...

That's about it... Thanks for listening...I hope this gives you a little better understanding of the situation ... I am not a mean, controlling, bitter person... but my home is my sanctuary, and I hope this helps you in understanding the importance of not having certain things in our home... My husband agrees with me on this.... Like I said, we have come up with an idea... Perhaps we will put the print the girls gave him out a couple of times when they come over so they will see we value "them" and then my husband can store it in his memory box...We're not exactly sure right now, but we're leaning in that direction...

Again, thank you for your time,
Ruth
#18: by Connie on 04.16.2009 @ 01:29pm CDT

Hello Ruth,
I know exactly what you are going through except for the part where your husband supports you! My (second) husband loved me as yours did and told me more stuff about his first wife than I need to know. But he is powerless with his adult daughters who control him with guilt. (His guilt goes back to an incident when he was 8 yrs old so it is an everpresent tool they have learned to use very well.) They constantly ignored me, didn't talk to me, flicked their head and rolled their eyes at me. He said it was my fault because I turned away too soon and didn't give them a chance. It was either "You're imagining it" or "Be patient, they are starting to warm up to you." (Which means they are emotionally abusing you but keep taking it because I don't have the courage to confront them.) We babysat hundreds of hours and I spent many hours by myself doing many different activities with the girls. They (3 and 5 yrs old) were never allowed to call my grandma. When the younger one made the mistake the 5 yr old would quickly correct her. You are soooo lucky your husband supports you. What you have to understand and own is this: His adult daughters are JEALOUS of you. They are mad that he can actually be so happy with another woman. They are selfish and self-centred. Feel secure that he loves you so much. Be soooo thankful he is supportive of you and actually told his daughters he loved you. My husband could NEVER tell his daughters what he told me. It would upset them too much. He was living two different emotional lives. They finally won out. The anger, resentment, hatred, lies, meanness, rudeness finally broke us. The stress was too great and he said we had to split because he "could not alienate his daughters". Of course they made that list just to get under your skin. And they succeeded. Now, LET IT GO. Hang up the list and when they come over let them see that their daddy also hugs and kisses you. Smile and tell them what a wonderful man he is and how lucky you are that he loves you. Drop your bitterness or he will start choosing them over your because blood is thicker than water. My husband's wife had cancer for 8 yrs and made the girls promise he would NEVER be with another woman. He told me he never promised her because he didn't know what would happen (he was only 58) and he didn't feel guilty because he loved me so much. Unfortunately he never had the courage to tell his daughters (in their thirties) because that would upset them too much and boy do they have tempers. He's a gentle man who was easily controlled by their tempers (and his first wife's). Read Proverbs 18:13-14;17:27;18:4;16:24;13:3; REgarding turning their back to you:6:16-17;and 21:4.
The Proverbs verse that has sustained me as I live in my little apartment now split from my husband 15:17, Better is a dish of vegetables where love is than a fattened ox and hatred with it.
I never knew people could be so mean, rude, cruel, selfish and self-centred. Be thankful your husband supports you and remember they are jealous of you. Rise above their unChristlike behavior. They are trying to drive a wedge between the two of you and they are succeeding. They will never change. Never. So you change or say goodbye to your marriage.
#19: by Janet M. on 04.17.2009 @ 05:26am CDT

This is the last time I will see my (step) grandhildren - all 10 of them, but I have 2 biological grandchildren. I have been married 13 years to a widower. I have been loved by my grand children (their biological grandmother died before they were born)and I have shown them my love all these years. The only 27 yr old daughter left 4 of these beautiful children with their father so she could continue an affair with a 20 year old male.
Lies she told to her oldest brother who is almost 40 about me causing her to be fired from her job led him to attack me while I was getting out of my car by closing the door on my arm and leg. In the presence of his father, he called me the vilest names you could call any woman I stayed in the car fitfully crying while his father tried to calm him down. I sat in the car in pure misery - I had to turn up the volume on the radio so as not to hear the vile words he said against me and his father. The next day his #2 son called (we had seen him and his wife just prior to going over to the 1st son's house as we were delivering Valentines to the grand children)). #2 son said the daughter and her family (including her husand), #3 son and his family were all at #1's house for a family meeting to try to talk to the two who were separating because of daughter's infidenity. He said #1 son told him his Dad was always welcomed at his home. My husband told 2nd son "Why would you think I would ever be there without my wife?" BUT SINCE THAT TIME (Feb 14th)my husband has spoken to #2 son and even gone fishing with him. I could not sleep for 3 days because of the trauma created by the threats and vile words, let alone the vicious, snarling face of #1. I kept seeing these things that ran so fast through my mind when I closed my eyes I awoke with a startle each time. I probably slept 1 hour out of 36 when I went to my doctor for a sleep aid. It helped get me at least 5 hours sleep a night for a week. Now I just respond with anger. These kids have done disrespectul things to their father and I over the years. I CAN NO LONGER EXCUSE THEIR ANTICS. I will no longer accept the fact that #2 and #3 sons closed their eyes to this treatment of their father and of me. If they were truly concerned abou their dad they would have called to check on him. Instead they think just because they call their father (never mentioning the event)that all is well because he does not bring it up himself. I did send my 4 youngest grandchildren a special Easter Basket from Papa and me. Husband goes to see the grandchildren himself as they are near. He tells me each time they ask when they can go and play with Grandma. I can't deal with seeing them because of their mother. I don't want to have to deal with her when I see the kids. I have cut myself off from any further abuse nor will I ever again walk into an ambush. Husband says he will change his Will to exclude the grown adult children and include the grandchildren. He's said that so many times after each incident that has occurred. I know it won't happen this time either. I will no longer allow any of his children in my home. I will stay with their father, b ut the relationship has changed to one of tolerance. I NEED HELP. ANY RECOMMENDATIONS?
#20: by Connie on 04.17.2009 @ 10:39am CDT

Blood is thicker than water. You might not have a choice to stay with their father if he tells you to leave. You are dealing with unChristlike people. They don't change and become warm-hearted all of a sudden. Read Proverbs for strength. I too have suffered the extreme emotional abuse from adult children of the first marriage. The separation from my husband just about killed me and I spent hundreds on counselling. I could have saved a lot of money by reading Proverbs. Lots of wisdom there. Sometimes when you are dealing with selfish, self-centred, ungrateful, unChristlike people the only solution is to stay away from them. That pits you against your husband which is not good. Proverbs talks a lot about anger. Read it and embrace it. God Bless.
#21: by Charlotte on 04.21.2009 @ 12:32am CDT

I am an adult stepchild ( 40 yrs old) and I agree with the statements made about how the kids feel a loss. My parents are both still alive and both remarried, and I didn't know until recently how terribly affected I was by my parents' divorce and subsequent remarraiges. My Dad has been sick and I had a meltdown in the hospital parking lot because I so badly wanted a few moments alone with my Dad. I can't seem to squeeze in with his hovering wife and her kids constantly in the room. I haven't been able to be alone with him for a minute since he's been remarried, and I have been respectful and understanding of her the whole time. I would just cry to my husband about how our family has changed, and how much it hurts having stepparents. I have never taken my feelings out on anyone in this matter. My Dad's wife was abandoned by a previous husband, and she acts like she has to guard my Dad when his own family is around. Many of us feel that she has discreetly tried to pull him away from us and integrate him into her own family, as if he raised her kids or something. It's twisted. I admit, I have always been "Daddy's Girl", and as an adult, my Dad spent a lot of time with me and my kids prior to this marriage. So, I may feel an even greater loss at having to share my Dad with this obsessed woman and her kids, who also seem to think they are now my Dad's kids. It's a mixed bag of ugly emotions I tell you, and it's made me think twice anytime I get mad at my husband....divorce for us is NOT an option. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
#22: by Charlotte on 04.21.2009 @ 12:34am CDT

I wanted to add a note regarding my comments above...I was referring to the original answer from Ron...I didn't read all the other comments.

Thank you.
#23: by Mia Scott on 05.29.2009 @ 11:15am CDT

Having two step-sons that claim to hate me after I raised them mostly by myself has broken my heart. The bio-mother wanted to go find herself and left the father. On my back she went to college and became an episcopal priest! I raise her children so she could have her dreams.What about mine? I am the one that took care of them when they were sick, made them tow the line, have manners, do schoolwork and got the brunt of the miserable teen years. I loved and took care of them. I would not allow drugs or boose in the house, they had rules and chores and went to church. And for this I am a bad parent and the bio-mom is now a saint. If I had to do it all over again I would not do it. Listen to me, think hard before you go into a relationship with someone who has children. it is thankless, trust me. My heart is broken and I will not recover.
#24: by Mary D on 05.31.2009 @ 08:36pm CDT

How often is this blog updated, how often are postings, and is anyone out there who can help me with advice? Thanks, Mary D
#25: by Ron Deal on 06.01.2009 @ 08:48am CDT

Mary D--

I appreciate your patience. We are a very small ministry; I am the only person here to manage comments and posts. Comments are posted as they are made (technically this is not a "blog"). Coaching & phone counseling is available with me on a fee & scheduling basis. See our Personal Help and Coaching page (http://www.successfulstepfamilies.com/view/450).

God bless.
#26: by TLynn on 06.15.2009 @ 06:59am CDT

No one has addressed what to do if you simply to not LIKE the adult step son that came with my husband as a package. I have tried for over 7 years to like him - to no avail. The kid is a master manipulator, a functioning alcoholic, lazy, has no social skills and is just plain self-absorbed. My husband, however, thinks this kid (he's almost 26 but still very immature) walks on water. My husband is driven by guilt where this kid is concerned. He and the mother were divorced when the kid was 5 and an only child. The mother took him out of state and my husband tried to make up for not being there by throwing money at the situation...which he still does. The kid KNOWS my husband is guilty and has truly mastered the art of manipulation in order to get whatever he wants - mostly money. While I can see the manipulation factor, my husband just takes it as "being needed". If the kid didn't waste so much money on booze, he wouldn't need our money quite so much.

I'm truly weary of my life revolving around this needy adult/child whereas MY four children are not considered a part of either of their lives...and the youngest one of them lives with us. I've tried for years to say we have "five" children. Whenever anyone asks, I say "five"....my husband always says, "one". Or, "I have one, she has four." My birth children's father is still alive, but minimally involved in their lives...just as when we were married.

I have tried to incorporate the sainted one into the group, to balance things out re: gifts, etc. We have a set amount for each child for Christmas..and if they're married or engaged, the amount covers the couple. Discussed it with the hub and he agreed to the amounts. That, apparently, applies only the the four I gave birth to. I found out that last Xmas, the sainted one got twice what everyone else got...and his girlfriend got a chunk of cash, too. My husband flat out lied and told me that the gift was the same as everyone else received.

My husband goes behind my back all the time to do things for the sainted one that actually just keeps the group separated. I find myself increasingly resentful of the kid...and my husband. I am so tired of the two of them and their little click.

If I'm being honest, I think part of my problem is that the sainted one is adopted and part of me does not even consider him my husband's "son".

I am tired of my husband's ongoing making of a multi-tiered family. I am tired of catching my husband in lies as it relates to this kid. I am tired of the kid KNOWING that he's #1 in my husband's life (and apparently always will be), and using that fact to manipulate. Plus, my husband and I have been together for almost 8 years and the sainted one has not even taken the time to learn the other kids, his step brothers and step sisters' last name (which is different than mine). He has never called the house and talked to me...just to say, "Is Dad there?" He has never acknowledged my birthday, or any of his step sibs, though they acknowledge his. This actually should not surprise me as he only remembers his fathers if I prompt him.

I have reached my wits end. In my heart, I know nothing will change unless my husband changes...and I don't see that happening.
#27: by Paula on 07.10.2009 @ 09:34am CDT

Hi Ron,

I stumbled across your website trying to find help dealing with my blended family problems. I'm looking for biblical direction for how to handle my problems. After reading some of the lengthy problems other blended families of re-marriage are dealing with it scares me.

My husband and I have been married for 2 1/2 years and we both work full time. My husband and I are both divorced and have adult children from our previous relationships. I also have a 14 y.o. daughter that currently lives with her dad. My husband has 2 adult sons mid and late 20's with children of their own. The younger son lives with us in the basement and the oldest lives with his wife and 2 children next door. My husband also has a 20 y.o. daughter that lives with us.

I have a 24 y.o. single daughter and my 2 granddaughters 4 & 2 that lives about 3 miles from us. She's a topic for another discussion. My 14 y.o. daughter lives with her dad about 20 miles away.

Anyway, our struggles are with our adult children not my 1 minor child. His children live with us and are always there with their significant others, friends and the grandchildren. There is not any peace or private time for my husband & I. His children are dependent on my husband even though they have jobs. My husband pays the household bills, buys the food and we both do the cooking and cleaning.

His daughter and I do not like each other. I did like her in the beginning and even bragged and did things to make her feel special but since we've married it's went down hill. She is very spoiled and even though she is 20 y.o. now and works full time, she does not do any chores. I can't recall in the 5 1/2 years we've been together that she's ever done a dish. Her dad takes care of her and picks up her clothes every morning from the bathroom and puts them in the wash. She does not pay any bills other than her own credit cards and her dad continues to pay her car insurance.

I pretty much took the attitude if that's what he wants to do then so be it. But I'm not going that far. I do help cook the meals and clean up but I refuse to do her laundry, fold and put it away for her.

I didn't want to rock the boat and figured I could live like this for a few years since they are all adults and would be moving out and starting a life of their own eventually anyway. I figured even though it was difficult living with them because they are disrespectful to me and they constantly talk about things that happened when he was married to their mom. I've brought the fact that it bothers me his daughter constantly talking about her mom "his ex" and he said he knows she's doing this on purpose. It's obvious b/c if she's mad at me every other sentence is about her mom. But I figured if I could put up with it for a few years then when they moved out there would not be problems and they would bring the grandkids around for the holidays, etc, because I like being a close family.

So a few months ago his daughter's dog got hit by a car and killed while my husband and I were watching her. My oldest step-son called her at work and she came home. The first words out of her mouth were cussing and accusing her dad and I. I tried to explain but she was so angry and I could not speak to her. I figured it would take time and over looked her angry words. Well then she turned her anger into a vendetta to get rid of me. She told her dad it was all my fault and either I leave for good... not a few days or months but to pack my bags and never come back... OR she would leave.

My husband trying to be the peacemaker ask me to say something to her b/c she didn't think I was sorry about what happened. So I told her I was sorry and tried to explain how things happened.... that's when she went off... She yelled at me and said she wanted me out for good... she cussed me, told me none of the kids wanted her dad to marry me, they all hate me and that I'm worthless and mentally unstable, that I can't cook and the only reason her dad married me was because "I looked good at the time". She attacked me as a mother, a grandmother and a wife. She said I was fake and numerous other derogatory statements. She even said her dad should have married someone like her mom "his ex" that "can cook, run a house and knows how to take care of farm animals". Mind you the reason my husband divorced her mom was because his ex left him and had an affair with the neighbor guy and got pregnant @ 42 y.o.

I did not lash back at her. Pretty much all I said when she kept prodding me to say something was "you should not speak things just because you think them". She justified her actions by saying that she's not fake and not afraid to say what she thinks. What hurts the most is during this long grueling verbal attack by my step-daughter my husband sat there and did not stop her and tell her to leave. He just kept babying her and saying your just hurt over your dog getting killed. I can't get the words she said out of my head and the hurt from my husband not defending me and telling her these things are not true and that he married me because he loves me. If I would have corrected her and defended myself I felt sure he would have took her side and ask me to leave. This hurt is tearing me up and I feel like I need to leave. His children have no plans of ever moving out... they are planning to live there the rest of their lives. As much as I love my husband and want our marriage to work I feel defeated and think I should throw in the towel and leave.

Please let me hear from you. Thanks so much.

P.c.
#28: by Ron Deal on 07.14.2009 @ 11:24am CDT

Paula--

I feel very sorry for you. You are living every stepparents disaster: married to a man who won't set boundaries with his children or risk hurting them in order to stand up for his marriage. Here's what you already know. You have very little power in this family and won't have unless your husband grows a spine (sorry to be blunt, but that's just shooting straight). Until then, don't expect things to improve. You can't apologize enough to his daughter for something you're not responsible for and expect anything to change. This is your husband's responsibility. BTW, this is exactly why my new book for stepmoms (do out in Oct '09) has two chapters just for husbands. You can't be successful as a stepmother without his support.

My suggestion: since you don't have any power in this family system, insist on marriage therapy with a trained stepfamily therapist right now. Any chance your husband would consider an intensive (go here: http://www.successfulstepfamilies.com/view/450)?

God bless.
#29: by Clee on 07.25.2009 @ 11:59am CDT

Reading the postings here made me realize that I'm not alone. My husband had been divorced for over 18 years before we met and got married. I was told ex-wife left with their 2 young girls as he could not meet her expectations in terms of material possessions, needless to say it was a very acrimonious situation, with accusations of neglect, emotional abuse, etc. When he first met his ex-wife, he was in college, had just lost his sister (with whom he was very close) in a bad traffic accident, probably emotionally vulnerable. The impression I get is that he had married her partly out of guilt. It was not a happy marriage, as she was never satisfied. Anyway, his daughters are now estranged from him, although he's constantly reaching out. The older girl is 34 years old and most of her phone calls had been to ask for something or other(financially), saying that he owes them and their mother all these years. Two yrs ago, she called to ask him to pay her student loan (even though she had a good job then). I said no, and she vented viciously of course. Recently, my husband called her to ask if she would join us on a trip (unfortunately before checking with me). I told him I would not go on any vacation with her based on past unpleasant experiences. Don't get me wrong - she had never been outrightly rude to me those times. It was how she treated her father that was so offensive, always with an accusing tone, always expecting her father to pay for everything. The first trip, we paid for her to fly out to visit us overseas). When he told her he had to retract the offer because of how I felt, she started cussing and swearing at both of us, saying she would slap me if she has the displeasure of laying her eyes on me again. She also used derogatory racist terms against me (I'm Asian). She had used similar words previously when we first got married. She said that she and her sister were not interested in any relationship with my husband, but that he owed them over 30 years of financial support (don't know how she derived that). In her last email, she said my husband needed mental help etc etc, and not to contact her again.
She had wanted to move in with us once (we had been married for about 18 mths), claiming her landlord wanted her apt back, but I said no because I questioned her motives. That almost destroyed our marriage, because my husband was put in a difficult situation. (I thank God that my husband fears the Lord.) I think that if she had moved in, it would have definitely been the end. Her behavior during those past trips have also now showed me that she would not balked at driving a wedge between my husband and I.
We try to do what is right, but we are not perfect. I know we can always do better, so how should we handle this delicate situation? Thanks to everyone.
Be blessed!
#30: by Brenda on 07.27.2009 @ 09:35pm CDT

My problem is somewhat different than these. Husband and I have been married 10 years. He was divorced about 6 yrs and I was widowed 3 years. He has 2 daughters who keep saying (and insinuating) that he did his ex wrong- did not pay support, left her w/ 5 kids, did not help around the house- just picky things. This hurts me so much, esp since I know he still sends 500 a month for 1 child (handicapped) who remains at home. He has told me that before we met when all the kids were home, he could not even afford a car because he had to support the kids. How should I handle this when they make these remarks? and how can I keep from feeling hurt because of it? I love my step daughters and wish we saw them more often. We don't because they live 14 hours away and husband just doesn't feel up to the trip.
#31: by Clee on 07.29.2009 @ 09:30am CDT

Speaking for myself, Brenda, I see similarities in all our problems here. Jesus spoke against divorce, because it only brings pain on so many levels thereafter. It reveals the ugliness in people - envy, greed, spite, self-centeredness, selfishness, intolerance, etc. Like your stepdaughters, my husband's older daughter has constantly made the same accusations of no support. I think it is a case of wanting more. A case of being materialistic. Nothing you give them will be enough until they are changed from within. When we gave our car to her younger sister (husband was going on deployment and I didn't need the car), she was outraged and screamed that my husband was giving a faulty car to her sister (absolutely NOT true). That was just envy. I think praying for those who hurt us does help a lot. It also protects us from being dragged down into that mud of ugliness.
#32: by bj on 09.02.2009 @ 09:53pm CDT

Oh, Ruth

I could have written such a similar true story so I feel your frustration and pain. It takes so much strength and energy to smile and smile while being treated like dirt at times. Someone even wanted to give me a picture of late wife and hubby while I was attending a gathering. We have tons of pictures and I wondered why someone would want to hurt me in that way.

I have heard of many wives of widowers feel that they were competing with a ghost. I truly never, ever felt that in any way. Yet, when others have gone out of their way to continually let me know how wonderful lw was over and over again, it does get old and I wonder how they could continue to do that. I have known others in the past that married another upon the death of a spouse and I always accepted them and did everything to make them feel welcomed and included them in conversations that she/he could identify with.

I know about grief as I have lived it when I lost my dad at 12, but when mom remarried years later I never felt resentment in any way. I loved my mom and wanted her to be happy and I knew my Dad would have wanted that,too. My sisters and I knew that the world did not revolve just around us. My mom did something right in raising her girls. I have done the same with my children. Such a legacy to leave. I would be hurt and ashamed to ever know that if I died first that my children would not put their stepdad's feelings first if he remarried. I'm not saying to not express their grief that I am no longer with them. Grief does take time to move forward and to be whole but never to the point of intentionally hurting anyone else. My children have said they would never be so disrespectful to me once I am gone by acting this way toward a new love in stepdad's life. He love's me, but he can be allowed to share his love with someone new and not feel guilty.

Change is not easy and the old familiar ways, traditions change for all, but it is OK to hold on to those easy, comfortable family situations in our memory. Yet, all must grow and move on with what we have now even if they are not as easy at the moment. The problem is that many can not do this. Sad.

I'm so glad that my sisters and I did not cause our mom more pain in her life. She loved out dad, but there is room for another love and if allowed can prove so fruitful in years to come for everyone.

I hope you are doing well. I will be thinking of you and sending many prayers for you and others that are involved.
#33: by Marie on 12.21.2009 @ 02:08pm CST

First, let me say that we are blessed to find this website - thank you so much for providing it. It has helped my husband and I to understand a bit better what his 40 yr. old daughter is perhaps thinking about our relatonship, from her perspective. Because we have gone through our own 10 years of painful and emotional "dramas" with her, I feel each of the comments writers' pain. After reading most of them we came to the conclusion that our situation isn't too horrible and we probably just need to tweak our relationship with my step-child (my husband's daughter) to keep some sort of relationship going.

My husband's daughter had a contentious relationship with her mother, who was a good Christian woman who got up at 5:00 every morning to pray for her family. When my husband's daughter was about 19 her brother was murdered and they took her out of college and brought her home. Then her mother died 11 years later. My husband was single for 9 months before he started dating a little. He was really lost without his wife, as I think most men are - they have a hard time "doing" for themselves, cooking, cleaning, etc. They're lonely!

I met my husband through amazing, miraculous circumstances as he was the husband God had planned for me. I had been single for nearly 10 years and would only re-marry if the Lord was the one who brought me together with my next husband. Through his sister (in another State) we met 11 months after his wife's death and married 7 months later. We've been happily married for 10 years and he is currently 70 and I'm 61.

I have no children of my own so that problem is out of the mix, Thank Goodness! I am considered the outsider and I have definitely made good use of prayer and a couple of good Christian friends to hear my complaints and struggles. While I get the brunt of my step-daughter's ire every now and then, it's my husband who gets more hurt.

During the first 3 months of our marriage we caught my husband's daughter out with having stolen some checks from his business checkbook. We didn't know about it until his accountant called and said his statement for the last quarter was out about $6000! We were staggered!! I immediately put all the business bookkeeping onto a computer software program and made sure we had everything reconciled and up to date. Then we find out that she had charged another $8000 on various credit cards! My husband had always paid his balance and didn't use credit cards all that much. He confronted her and she admitted that she had gotten into financial trouble with her business. My husband and I talked about it all and were in complete agreement about how to handle the situation. For the first three years of our marriage he kept her feet to the fire and made her repay most of the money she stole. Her new husband ended up making good on the last of the debt. That was 5 years ago.

18 months into our marriage my husband retired and we moved 700 miles away - we were relieved to be not living in the same town, even though we would miss the grandchildren. If we ever turned her down to watch the two grandchildren (then 4 and 8) she would get bent out of shape and not understand that we had a life too and we had plans sometimes.

The only time she ever contacts us is when she wants us to watch the kids. She ended up moving 120 miles away from where we currently live. We have kept our relationship a little bit distant (we both desire that), polite, but distant. She now is using the emotional blackmail ploy of the grandchildren's school plays, baseball gams, concerts, graduations, birthdays, etc. to make us drive the 240 mile round trip to keep in her good graces. We cannot stay overnight as they do not have the room and we don't want to incur hotel bills, so we usually say "no" or "maybe next time". We also have an added problem that we are involved with our church, our choir and ministry functions, so we are quite busy. My husband's daughter re-married a guy who is an atheist and who had led her down the liberal trail so that we cannot ever talk about anything other than kids or jobs. Her husband has a look of contempt on his face when they to come up to see us which is about once every 18 months. Once our political views went in the opposite directions, with the past election, we are very persona non gratis anymore. We can come and visit, but please keep our mouths shut. Pleasant.

My question is: with our advancing age, price of gas, the mileage involved - should we be expected to attend most of these invitations? We try to be as diplomatic as possible about declining but I know that she's getting more and more irritated. She seems to have no regard for our age, my physical condition etc. We have a blow-up almost every Christmas season and it's getting to be very disturbing. Our grandchildren are now almost 19 (in first year of college); 14 and 5.

My husband isn't very good at phone contact or even e-mail except to his friends. I really try to encourage him to do better at that with his daughter but so far I'm not having much luck. I've put myself in the mix because he won't and now I've been asked by my step-daughter not to e-mail any longer - so what do we do now?

Thanks for your help!
#34: by bj on 01.05.2010 @ 09:30pm CST

Marie

It is late so I will be brief for now.

I don't know why some husbands lack the ability to speak frankly with their grown children. I speak very frankly with mine and would never let any get away with just being selfish and rude.

Your daughter in law wants no more emails so you should not email her. I feel that sometimes we have to remove ourselves from certain situations if there is so much hurt and anger even though we want to keep trying to make things right. Some people will not let that happen.

You and your husband are older and can not make every trip for everything and that is understandable. Even if you did make all these trips, I'm afraid your daughter in law might find other things to complain about. Sometimes we have to face the fact that no matter what is done we will never make everyone happy.

I have know of someone that made life hell for their elderly dad when he remarried and most of all to his wife. Many years later she married a widower and feels so bad as to how she treated her dad's wife. She is now understanding how it feels to be rejected by grown children. She regrets that she was never able to tell her dad's wife how sorry she was for being so self centered. It happens.
#35: by Ima McHaupt on 02.23.2010 @ 01:29pm CST

Wow,
You have a lot to read here. I read some of the comments made by others. yikes.

I made the mistake of marrying a divorced man. I have been married for 3 decades...my first marriage, his second. I love the three kids we have together, but the sneaky passive aggressive bullying and emotional abuse I tolerated from him, his Mom, Dad, some of his relatives,and two of his kids from his first marriage have taken a toll on me. I have had enough.

It has taken all this time for me to be fully sure of what I suspected all this time, and that is, I have never been really liked by any of the women from my husband's side of the family...and the scorn of the women of the family is a rotten harsh thing to do to any woman...and more esp. if she is a newcomer and if it is her first marriage.

There have been red flags...the most aggravating is that my husband will not make out a Will that protects me primarily ....and if my husband passed away, I guess I would have to take the matter to probate....or just walk away.

My husband is on facebook with some of his adult kids from his first marriage, and one of my own adult-kids interacts with the people from my husband's first marriage...and I don't understand why any of my own kids would interact with anyone who was hostile towards me. I just don't get it.

I was always considerate of my Mom's feelings, and I never buddied around, or kept in touch with anyone who had put the hurt on my Mom...nor my Dad for that matter.

How do I handle it, if any of my adult children becomes friends with family who are hostile towards me ? I assume it is ok to make reasonable boundaries. I have already made it clear that rude hostile parties are not allowed in my home. As a parent I do worry that hostile family members and the older adult step-children will play my kids off on each other....or on me....and I am concerned that my husband's hostile older adult children are playing head-games, and will at some point: single out, use, defraud and hurt my young adult children. My father-in-law was worried about the same issues back in the early 1980's.

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